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WTF of the day via Haligweorc

September 27, 2007

Derek the Anglican has a post up over at his blog about what his wife has been experiencing in interviews for positions as a priest.

She was asked blatantly sexist and illegal kinds of questions – questions regarding her family, her husband’s job, availability on weekends, etc. – that no man interviewing for a position as priest would be asked.

Women and the sexually other – still taking it across the chin in 2007 nearly 100 years after the 19th amendment we are still putting up with all this second class bull shit.

One of the commenters at Derek’s place suggested that discrimination against women in the search process for priests gave him further fuel to oppose women’s ordination. Talk about convoluted thinking. Let’s see – if women are allowed to become priests, but then they have a hard time getting positions as priests because of discrimination, it probably means women should not be ordained. WTF? How about it means search committees asking illegal questions should be called on the carpet by their diocesan leadership.

Don’t like it? To effin’ bad. This is the 21st Century. It’s only going to get more complicated as we go along, so strap in, and enjoy the ride.

2 Comments leave one →
  1. September 27, 2007 12:49 pm

    This reminds me of what my curate said when it became apparent i was serious about moving forward in the discernment process about a year ago.

    “I’m warning you right now, and make no bones about it … the Church is the most godless place in the world.”

    Sad, but true in many ways i think.

  2. September 27, 2007 1:46 pm

    There’s been a lot of talk lately about priests, bishops, discernment, and now this, the ungodly “call” process. Some of this latest about women reminds me of how it was when I was first interviewing for jobs with law firms in the early 1980’s — the questions firms would ask or badly hint at asking on law school premises despite express prohibitions by the law school. The guys would just sit and smirk, not caring that you didn’t care if you ever went to their firm or whether you’d report them.

    But the church…. oh my goodness. This isn’t just a woman thing, you know (though there certainly is that). Anyone who is not married or out as GLBT is assumed to be GLBT (and if not, of course, in great danger of be sexually promiscuous in one direction or another).

    And even for the married (St8) folks, the spouse is picked over and children examined up and down. My favorite story was of a young male priest, married, with a young child — nearly perfect as priests go — tremendous pastor and gifted preacher, unusual in someone so young. He was practically hounded out of his parish (he quit on them after 3 years, I think), because people were upset that he had his young daughter with him at times in the church offices or at informal meetings. It wasn’t that she was misbehaving or disruptive, it was that his wife did not work outside the home, and they were incensed that he would spend time taking care of his daughter so his wife, who was an artist, could work at her art (or take a nap, or whatever). They liked things much better with their former priest, whom they refused to acknowledge was a barely closted gay, because he had so much time for the parishioners without having “family” obligations to take him away.

    For those seeking church as the bastion of goodness and light in a troubled world — think again — it’s full of the same bull crap you’ll find anywhere and often much worse, more of the lunatics running the asylum and the priest charged with keeping them all in line (but woe unto him or her that crosses anyone). Anyway, it takes special people to put up with churches, clergy and laity. A intentional community of people devoted to following Christ is only what we can strive for. If you haven’t already, do please read Harry’s post at Jake’s on God’s Fools at

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